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Tuesday, 29 December 2020

Rival Lines: "Brentford are warming up nicely," says Beesotted

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Match preview: Brentford v AFCB
Podcast Interview: Beesotted
Twitter: @Beesotted @Billythebee99

I had the good fortune to spend a bit of time with Billy who writes and hosts the Beesotted podcast for Brentford fans. Brentford have suddenly started to pick up form and are just a place behind Bournemouth now and go into this game knowing a win could put them n the automatic promotion places. So,  Bournemouth couldn't have asked for a much harder game to finish 2020 with.

You can catch the Beesotted Pre-Match preview podcast here

CC: It was a great win against Newcastle United in the Carabao Cup. Is a semi-final going to be a good distraction from the league for Brentford?

BEES: The win against Newcastle was great. Many Bees fans were a bit disappointed when they saw the starting line-up - with Thomas Frank opting to play many of the so called ‘second string’ (I prefer to say squad out of respect) players who had got us to this stage of the competition.

Fosu - a winger - and Thompson - our sub left back - were playing in the full-back positions. Mads Bech Sorenson - who graduated from Brentford’s B-team, has had a fair amount of first-team game time recently in the absence of Pontus Jansson - at centre-back.

And with first-teamers Ivan Toney, Josh Dasilva, Matthias Jensen and Christian Norgaard all on the bench. 

But the gamble paid off - getting the squad rotation that the team has so massively needed after an arduous season whilst also getting the win - Josh DaSilva coming off the bench to net the winner.

We’ve had a slow start to the season as per usual. But it’s been steady. And although it hasn’t been as pretty as last season (with players like Said Benrahma out of the side, he will always be hard to replace), we have been a lot more assured. Chiselling out results against teams who last season, we would have lost to. Like Cardiff, on Saturday, who went 1-0 up with a genius goal. And were in danger of bullying themselves to a win with their long throws and free kicks bombarding our goal.

Last season we lost around a quarter of our matches 1-0. This season we seem to have got our heads around the opposition 'nicking a goal against us’.

So, yes the Newcastle game was a good distraction from the league. But ironically, it didn’t fully involve many of the players who play in the league week-in-and-week-out. So it allowed us to be fresh for the Cardiff game three days later.


CC: Brentford haven't lost at home since playing Preston North End in early October. Why do you think the home form has been so impressive of late?


BEES: That Preston game was weird. Early October. We were 13th going into the match

I remember it well because I hooked up with a load of Preston fans who had travelled down from the Northwest the day before to watch their non-league club Corinthian Casuals (they are the Northern Casuals) play Dulwich Hamlet in the third qualifying round of the FA Cup. They were not expecting anything from the Bees game as Brentford had beaten them in every match bar one draw at Griffin Park going back to 2011.

Norgaard went off injured after 20 minutes. Little did we know we wouldn’t see him again until the Newcastle match. And little did we know at the time how much his injury would affect the side. It took us weeks to find a proper balance in midfield after Norgaard went injured.

We were 2-0 up at half-time. We fell apart in the second half with Preston winning 4-2.

We never ever fall apart like that. And fans were quite worried that we were losing the plot after losing in the playoffs to Fulham.

It took a month or so for Brentford to find their feet - trying out different combinations in the midfield positions.

Towards the end of November, when we played Barnsley away and QPR at home, one player really started to come into his own. Vitaly Janelt - bought late in the transfer window to little or no fuss at all. He pretty much snuck under the radar. And when he was asked to fill Norgaard’s shoes, not much was expected from him if truth be known.

But he has more than exceeded expectations. He has been tremendous. And does what it says on the tin. A formidable central defender. No messing. Whose job is to break up the opposition play. Win the ball back. And feed the attacking midfielders and forwards.

Our home form has been OK, because we’ve cut out the losses that we had last season. Around 25% of our matches were 1-0 losses. We’ve managed to turn those losses into draws. Our record is two wins and three draws in our last five home matches which is so so. Could be better.

Saying that, away from home we are formidable. Second in the away form table - just behind Norwich. And overall - home and away - we’re the form side in the league.

But as you know, that means nothing long term. One bad result. One injury. One piece of bad luck. Can change everything. 

CC: How much has Thomas Frank changed the style of football at Brentford?

BEES: The style of football Brentford plays was decided by the owner Matthew Benham way back when. Like back in 2010. And ever since then, we have employed the right coaching staff, support staff and players to play that style. So, Thomas Frank coming in hasn’t changed the style of our play. He would have been employed because he complemented our style of play.

Saying that, Thomas Frank was bought in from Denmark half-way through Dean Smith’s reign to become one of his assistant head coaches. The idea - Frank could add valuable tactical elements to Brentford’s game working alongside Smith. Frank also had two years to learn what the Championship was all about. Rather than bringing him in fresh from Denmark when a vacancy came up.

When Dean Smith left, Thomas Frank was able to seamlessly slip into Smith’s shoes. His succession had been planned two years in advance. Even though in his first 10 matches he won only one game (I think it was) and lost pretty much all the rest, because according to the stats, Brentford was performing as expected and were deemed as being unlucky for getting the results they got, there was no chance Frank was going to get sacked - despite pundits saying it was on the cards.

He since turned it around and has gone from strength to strength.

It’s not all been plain sailing. He’s been at times slow to make changes and very much sticks to his guns to see things through. Which can be admired in one hand. And can be frustrating in other hands.

But he has made Brentford more defensively sound than any of his predecessors, Dean Smith, Mark Warburton and Uwe Rosler.

But to be fair to him, he stuck with players like Sergi Canos when it looked like he was misfiring this season. Jensen when he looked a tad shaky. Marcondes who had a poor start to life at Brentford but Frank really believed in him and he has had some fabulous moments in the last year.

So, fair play to Frank. He knows his onions.

CC: Were you happy about the sale of Ollie Watkins?

BEES: I can’t say I was happy no. We all loved Ollie Watkins. But this is all part of being a Brentford fan. From selling Andre Gray back at the end of that season when we made the Championship playoff semi-final when Bees fans were gutted. Since then, we have always replaced a key player sold for someone better. Upfront we went from Gray to Scott Hogan. Lasse Vibe. Neal Maupay. Ollie Watkins. Plus we also sold the likes of Jota. Said Benrahma. Ryan Woods plus loads more. And of course Chris Mepham.

It makes it hard for you as a fan to get a real relationship with a player when you know he is going to leave after spending just two years at the club. But we’ve got used to it - I’m sad to say. And to be fair, it’s really helped us to keep us financially on an even keel.

The player sales over the last fie years has made us I believe around £100m in profit - some of which we still have to spend in the January window (we haven’t spent the £20m Maupay money or a lot of the £28m Watkins money and then there is another £20m to come from West Ham for Benrahma).

I would love Ollie still to be here. But he’s doing well in the Premier League. And we bought in Ivan Toney who could finish the first half of the season with 20 league goals.


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CC: Which is the best team in the Championship that you would say that Brentford have played so far?

BEES: Hmmm. We should have beaten Norwich. They got a lucky deflected equaliser in the final couple of minutes.

We hammered Watford 0-0 in the first half - we really should have been two or three up by half-time. The ref spoiled the match sending off Ethan Pinnock. We still got a draw but Watford weren’t all that.

Preston blew us away in that second half scoring four goals. They had the better of us all match.

Stoke also had our number in the first half going three up. But were hanging on for dear life in the second half as we got two back and pushed for an equaliser.

Blackburn looked lively in the 2-2 match at our stadium.

But I would say Preston out of all the teams we played so far.

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CC: Ivan Toney has done well since signing for the Bees. Is there a particular type of goal that he is good at getting - poacher, headers, outside the box - and what was his best goal?

BEES: Toney is your archetypal striker. Put the ball in the box and he’ll get you a goal. Header. Poachers shot. One-on-one with the keeper. He’s very different to Ollie Watkins. But a great striker. And also works so hard in defence to. So, he’s like having 12 players in your side. 


CC: Are Brentford capable of finishing in the top two this season or do they need to add to their squad to be able to really make a charge on the top two places?

BEES: We started slowly as we always do. But we’re warming up nicely. And the squad is coming together at the right time. We’re going to be top six going into the second half of the season. We’re so far unbeaten in 15 matches. And we have the league’s top striker. We also have players coming back from injury like Norgaard and Janson. And players coming into form like Canos, DaSilva and Mbeumo.

I’ll be surprised if we didn’t strengthen in the window. Possibly in one of the full-back positions. And also bring in a winger.

But I really do think we can push for a top-two place - assuming we do not get hit by injuries.

With Norwich, Bournemouth, Watford, Swansea, Boro gathering steam, possibly Blackburn and us, it’s going to be a fascinating battle.

 
CC: How are Brentford likely to line up for the game?

BEES: Our first eleven normally picks itself.

Dalsgaard. Pontus Janson. Pinnock and Henry will play in front of David Raya in goal.

Frank does like to rotate the midfield with Marcondes. Jensen. Dasilva. Norgaard filling the three midfield spots.

Upfront I would be surprised if it wasn’t Mbuemo Toney and Canos. With six-goal Marcus Forss on the bench. 
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CC: What is your score prediction?


BEES: Bournemouth have undoubtable quality. And it’s going to be tough.

On the Beesotted Pride Of West London podcast this week, which you kindly did the match preview interview for Peter, I predicted a 2-0 win for Brentford. We need to start winning home matches and I’m hoping with our first team all finally back on the pitch, this will be the match that we really step up to the plate.

CC: Many thanks for Billy for his absolute mountain of football knowledge on the Brentford team and for sharing his Beesotted thoughts with Cherry Chimes. Brentford are playing well and I can see why Billy is predicting a win for the home side. But while Bournemouth have not been winning all the time they have been keeping clean sheets and you have to go back to the Preston game when a team scored more than one against the Cherries' defence and in away match it was Rotherham who last managed that. I'm confident that Bournemouth can score against the best defence and best home record in the Championship, and I think we'll make it difficult for goal-machine Ivan Toney. So, a 1-1 prediction is how I see it. Like the Billy though, I know Bournemouth need to keep the wins coming if they are to catch Norwich City.

Do visit the Beesotted podcast. You'll find a match preview podcast there for this game in which I talk with Billy and discuss my thoughts ahead of the match. 

Friday, 20 February 2015

Cherry Chimes talks Brentford with Beesotted

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Match Preview
Brentford v AFCB
Blogger Interview: Besotted


I managed to get a quick word in with Billy Grant who write the Bees' Beesotted blog and podcast. He has had quite a week with all the goings on at Bentford FC this week so I was keen to know his thoughts on what the atmosphere is like on the ground.

Billy TheBee Grant writes and video logs for Beesotted blog. They do a video and podcast for every match. You can catch all Beesotted videos and podcasts at 

CC: How much are you enjoying the Championship visiting some big grounds and coming away with the points more often than not?

Beesotted: Our phrase is "We're just happy to be here". We came with the intention of keeping our heads above water but we've been pulling up trees and upsetting people in the process. The only thing that has soured it is the latest news about Mark Warburton leaving at the end of the season which I will talk about later.

But we've had great fun this season. Our trips to Forest, Leeds and Norwich were legendary. We absolutely hammered all three of them although the score didn't necessarily reflect that. We've been travelling well to considering our crowd averaged only around 5,500 three seasons ago. We took 1500 to Wigan. 2300 to Brighton. Must've been between 1500 and 2000 at Forest on a Tuesday night. Over 1,000 to Leeds and Norwich despite just after Xmas and extortionate ticket prices.

We feel proud when we meet opposition fans who give us plaudits. Forest, Norwich and Boro fans said unequivocally we were the best team they've played all season. Even better than your lot.

CC: Do you feel with the January signings that Brentford have enough to grab one of the automatic promotion places, let along a play-off place?

Beesotted: Everyone wanted us to get a striker. Andre Gray (£500k from Luton) has done a great job acclimatising from the conference to the championship. But it's all on his head. Our other striker Hogan got injured early in the season and we never really replaced him. For various reasons a striker never happened. Well we did get this kid on loan from Everton. Chris Long. But we were hoping for someone with a bit more of a goalscoring record.

The reality is we're doing brilliantly. Playing excellent football. When we played you at your place it was early days. We have gone I up three of four notches since.

Looking at the playoff places, we've scored the least goals and let in the most goals. Our one advantage is we win a lot of games. We've won one less that the top two (you guys and Derby) with 16 wins. If we stop winning its all over. So we need to score more to prevent that from happening.

CC: How do you feel about the prospect of ground sharing before the new stadium in Lionel Road is built for the 2017-18 season and if so who with - surely not QPR?

Beesotted: Personally I can't think of anything worse than watching football in another teams' stadium. Especially as it could possibly be for only one season. I would much prefer if we enjoyed our time in the sun on our own patch with our own mates rather than soul-less stadium filled with a bunch of johnny come lateleys who fail to add to the atmosphere. Don't get me wrong. I believe in growth. Fan growth. But that growth has to be organic and real.

There is talk of staying at Griffin Park in the short term if we went up. We are in the advanced planning stages of building our new stadium and the hope is, like Sunderland got with Roker Park, we might get some leeway if we got promoted with the Premier League allowing us to play at Griffin Park. There is even talk of keeping the terraces.

I couldn't think of anything better than Man United coming out of the tunnel at Griffin Park with its tight surround and only 1600 fans to cheer them on. If that were to fail, F*lham, QPHaha and Reading have been touted. It's cheaper to get to Sheffield with the special offers going around than Reading on the train. Plus they have no pubs and the stadium is quite soul-less. Forget that. Craven Cottage is an option. Doesn't quite sit with me though.

I don't actually hate QPR as much as most Brentford fans. Probably because I have a few QPR mates. Their stadium is very much like ours. Run down. Tight. And you can make a right good noise in there. Plus it's the most accessible by public transport and there are plenty of drinking options. It's the best of the three evils for me.

CC: Who has been Brentford's best player this season so far or who do you think has come on the most and improved their game?

Beesotted: David Button the keeper has come on leaps and bounds. Look at his save up at Carrow Rd v Norwich. Astounding. His save v Rotherham a few weeks earlier was also top drawer. Alex Pritchard on loan from Spurs. Quality attacking midfielder. Very very tricky.

But then Jota has had some great games. Got him from Celta Vigo for £1.5m. As has Alan Judge. Got him for not much from Blackburn in the summer after having him on loan half of last season. Tricky midfielders. Judge has been injured which is a shame.

Douglas has really upped his game in central midfield this season. But if anyone has gone from zero to hero it's Toumani Diagouraga. He was sent on loan to Portsmouth last season and could have left for Coventry but decided to fight for his place. Got a break in the team because of injury and went from fringe player to solid central midfielder in a Viera type mould. He's been excellent.

CC: How do you think Mark Warburton has managed to get more out of this Brentford team than Uwe Rosler did, is it a much different side?

Beesotted: Same side. Slightly different philosophy. Rosler was quite safe in his approach. If we went 1.0 up we would defend. And more than likely concede. Mark believes in attacking. Quality attacking football. Watford fans were stunned when we were 1-1with 10 men and not long to go and instead of shutting down we went for the win by bringing on another attacker.

He also backs his players 100%. He is very much a people person and knows how to get the best out of people. That's a rare quality. You can listen to him chat more on our weekly podcast.

CC: What do you think you think of Mark Warburton being let go at the end of the season?

Beesotted: It's a real shame he's going. He's a massive favourite with the fans and players. It's all down to a difference in philosophy. The owner Matt Benham wants to include a more scientific approach to the way Brentford find players and play our game. And wants to incorporate a more European structure to the club with a sporting director and head coach. Mark Warburton believes in a more traditional approach. They didn't agree and decided a while back, after it couldn't be reconciled, to go their separate ways.

He's here until the end of the season. Which is strange. It's definitely put a cloud on things. We needed to beat Watford really to get the feel good factor going but the early red card fluffed that. At Charlton we were just absolutely awful. Like the worst we've played all season. And probably the season before too.

He believes that he and his team are focussed on finishing as high up the table as we can. If anything, he has a point to prove. And the players will want to show how professional they are and not a flash in the pan. So the game against Bournemouth could go one of two ways. Either we could continue to feel sorry for ourselves and continue the caving in. Or we will really tear into you.

CC: Which game was the best Brentford victory that you've seen this season and why?

Beesotted: The most satisfying was F*lham. Haven't played them for over 15 years. Big rivalry. Friday night. Most people took the whole day off. It was lively by lunch time. They went one nil up. We equalised then scored in the 94th minute. Jota. Mayhem.

Other than that, battering Norwich at their place was satisfying. It was only 1-0 but should have been 4 or 5. Forest - we battered them too. Night game. Great day out. And Cardiff. First half we were on fire. 3-0 up within half hour. Then we just buckled in the 2nd half and the game ended 3-2 .. Could have been a draw.
CC: You have drawn the least games out of the top six teams, but do you think go all out for wins has cost you in some matches with late goals - I'm probably thinking of the Watford result here?

We're sh!t or bust. And in fact we normally score late goals. Never give up. So Derby was an injury time winner. F*lham was an injury time winner. The way we set up we continue attacking till the end. Watford we only let in that last minute goal because we were knackered. We were down to 10 men for 65 minutes I think it was. Watford were decent. Quick on the break. Moved the ball around fast. The way they kept coming at us it was only a matter of time. If we had 11 on 11 we probably would have beaten them. We went 1-0 up but couldn't capitalise. It was a great game of end to end football.

The theory is ... Win 4 and lose 2 is more points than win 3 draw 2 lose 1.

CC: How do you feel about Brentford's current home form going into the match against Bournemouth - confident?

Beesotted: Current home form is good. It's the cloud over the manager situation which can upset things. We had lost only twice at home in about 14 months. Ipswich, Brighton in the FA cup, Boro and Watford in the last month and a bit has really put a dent in that record. Only Ipswich was warranted though. We smashed Brighton off the park but couldn't score with a semi second string side. Boro we also played them off the park for much of the game but gave away a silly penalty and then had to try and penetrate their unpenetrable defence. Watford I've already spoken about. Let's see if we recover from the gloom of the last week.

CC: Brentford and Bournemouth in the Premier League. It couldn't happen could it?

Beesotted: Realistically. Probably not this year for us. One step beyond. Need a few more players. And need to score more and stop letting in so many silly goals. But saying that you never know. As a footballing side were good enough. You don't get too many sides saying you are the best team you have played for no reason. But I think it may be just one step beyond.

Saying that, if we take 7 points off you guys, Blackpool and Birmingham our tails will be right back up again. And .... Well who knows.


The best team we've played so far were Ipswich. Very organised. Boro were voted 2nd best. Again organised. Derby. Watford. You guys and Norwich were seen as more flare teams. Stylish. Except Norwich were rubbish when we played them at their place. Hoofball.

If I had to put money on it I'd say probably you guys and Derby will go up. Boro in the playoffs.

CC: Thanks Billy for sharing your thoughts with us. Billy is back later as he is giving us all a pub guide to Brentford and if you also visit his site you should find some return questions and answers to Cherry Chimes.
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